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Why Sept 29 Will Not Fulfill Rev. 12… Maybe, maybe not…

Posted in Deception, End Times Prophecy, Feasts, Rapture, Salvation, Weather signs, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , on September 15, 2011|

The article below caught my attention this morning, partly because of its topic but also because of its author.  I respect Jack Kelly, he is linked to all over my site and has written some of my favorite articles.  His most recent article goes contrary to a lot of the articles I have posted here in the last few weeks.  I think it is a great read and something we should all ponder.

I agree with him that the key to these end times is to take everything to God in prayer, ask for discernment to know what is truth and what is deception. 

That is what I try to do with this site, is bring topics and my perspective on what I have discerned for you to ponder as you study the Bible, the Lord’s Word.

His main point is that Revelations 12 can not be fulfilled until the previous chapters are since Revelations is mainly chronological.  I believe both his point and the previous posts can be correct.  Let me explain.

Throughout the Bible, many scriptures have dual meanings and fulfillment.  Revelations 12 speaks of things to come but also depicts a sign in the heavens. 

Question?  Do you think God knew we would be able to predict where the stars would be in the future as well as the past?  Do you think the thought that those that are “watchful” would be checking for future times around his “feasts” or “holy appointments”?  I do but ponder that.  I also do not believe what these watchful souls are doing is astrology.  They are only looking for how Bible prophecy (“signs in the heavens”) could be fulfilled.  God told us to watch the heavens for signs.  He created the heavens and all of the signs within it.  Are we ignore them, not look at them or for them?  I am not sure that is what Jack is saying but I think it is dangerous to label what these believers are doing as Astrology or a sin.

Leviticus 19:26 (KJV) – “You shall not eat anything with the blood, nor shall you practice divination or soothsaying.”

I do not think I would place the acts of those watchmen as “divination or soothsaying”.  Maybe a bit harsh there.

God never said that the signs we would see in the heavens would occur this day and then the next day events would happen.  He only said that once we see these “signs” his return is near, that we are in the season or nearing midnight.

Will Elenin fulfill prophecy?  I don’t know, but it is an interesting exercise in looking at what effects it could have on our little planet.  How those align with events described in the Bible and how much deception there is on earth to cover them up.  Would Satan try to cover up and hide God’s signs of the times?  You bet.  Are these them?  I don’t know but that is why we must pray for discernment.

I don’t know when the Lord will return to rapture His bride (the church), but I do feel it is drawing near.  There are signs all around us.  I believe one set of those signs are His holy feasts or appointments that he laid out for us.  The first four Christ fulfilled through his coming, dying for our sins, and over coming death to take His place in heaven next to His Father.  I believe He will fulfill the rest of them as well.

So in summary, please read through Jack’s article below, I believe it gives us some good thoughts to ponder.  Take everything back to the Lord in prayer; praying for discernment of the truth, God’s word.

You can hear the Messiah’s footsteps, the signs are overwhelming!

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Why Sept 29 Will Not Fulfill Rev. 12

 by Jack Kelly

Judging by the questions I’ve received, a youTube video and an online article have apparently convinced a lot of people that the fulfillment of Rev. 12 and  the rapture of the Church will both occur on Sept 29th of this year, which is the annual celebration of Rosh Hashanah, also known as the Feast of Trumpets.  Can this be true?

While Sept. 28-29 are the scheduled dates for Rosh Hashanah this year, and while the rapture could happen on any given day, Rev. 12 definitely can not be fulfilled on Sept. 29, nor on any other day this year or the next or the one after and here’s why.

Rev. 12 speaks primarily of three things.  The first is an overview, given in signs, beginning with the time of the Lord’s birth.  John used symbolism from Joseph’s 2nd dream (Genesis 37:9-11) to identify the pregnant woman in Rev. 12:1-2 as Israel (represented by Mary) about to give birth to the Messiah.  An enormous dragon, identified as Satan in Rev. 12:9,  was there waiting to devour the child the moment He was born.   This means that from the beginning the Messiah was born to die, and when He did He was taken up to God’s throne.  We know this as His crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension. (Rev. 12:1-6)

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Revelations 12 fulfilled this September? Wait there’s more…!

Posted in Earthquakes, End Times Prophecy, Feasts, Rapture, Salvation, Weather signs, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on September 2, 2011|

This is very exciting and amazing.  We are seeing signs all around us that Christ and the Lord foretold us would come as signposts that Christ’s return was near!  The Last Days…the rapture…

This is a great video that walks through all of this very well.  It is about an hour and a half long, so I am going to try to summarize it here with some screen captures, but I would highly recommend viewing the entire video it is amazing.  The screen captures just do not do it justice. 

If you are short on time, start at the 1:17 mark through 1:27 to see the context around the screen captures below. 

If you don’t have time to watch the video now, here is a quick summary of the last 10 minutes.

First, what is the prophecy we are seeing fulfilled:

Revelations 12:1-6
The Woman and the Dragon

 1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”  And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

We will see this play out in the heavens over the next couple months, September and October, 2011.  Lets review the key actors or players in this signs in heaven.

Elenin – Comet or Dwarf Star (headed our way)

Moon – Earth’s Moon

Venus – Christ/Church (sometimes called the “morning star” which christ also refered to himself as.)

Revelation 22:16 – “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

Saturn – Dragon/Cronus

Sun – Our Sun

So lets break this down:

Revelations 12:1 –  1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

The woman is the constellation Virgo, she will be clothed in the sun (wearing the sun as a tunic)  the moon will be under (at) her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head (Virgo has 12 stars that make up her head)  and the Comet Elenin with its tail will shine like a blue crown in her head. 

The Picture below is from Stellarium on 09-26-11 as the sign comes together…  The four red arrows are Elenin, he put a tracker on it so we can see it move in the video. 

Here is what we will see on September 26th, 2011 in the eastern sky.

 

Notice she is clothed in the sun.  The other players Venus, Saturn, our Moon, and Elenin are moving into position.

Revelations 12:2 – She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.

Elein will shift up toward Virgo’s face and the comet tail makes it look like she is crying.  I do not have a screen shot of this but he mentions it in the video and you can see it by playing the stary night application.  Venus is also moving into Virgo’s womb as if she is pregnant with child (Venus).  You will notice that Elenin is making its way past the sun and toward her head, Venus and Saturn are moving into her midsection, and the Moon is dropping toward her feet.

Revelations 12:3-4 – Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the  woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.

Saturn is known to represent Cronus, which is known as the dragon.  If you look up Cronus in Wikipedia, it talks about the legend of Cronus devouring his children as he feared they would fulfill the prophecy of replacing him.  Saturn this whole time all of these heavenly bodies are moving through the heavens is sitting still waiting for the birth of Venus (the morning star) so he can devour him.

Lets see this play out over three days in September:

September 27th (below):

September 28th (below):

Venus has moved fully into her womb, she is still clothed in Sun, Elenin is moving into position to show as tears during the birth, and the moon has dropped further toward her feet.  Saturn (the dragon) still waits by Venus to devour him once birthed.

September 29th (below) – Feast of Trumpets:

Venus and Saturn remain in her womb.  The sun cloths her and Elenin is moving into her hair to show as a crown.  The Moon its decent into a position by her feet.

Second View using Stary Night Program (you can see the comet’s tail better)

September 30th, 2011 (below):

Venus and Saturn remain in her womb.  The sun clothes her and Elenin has moved into her hair to show as a crown.  The Moon has moved into a position by her feet.

Revelations 12:5 – 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”  And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.

This is associated with Jesus Christ and the Church being snatched up to God and his throne.  Christ was taken up to heaven to rule with the Church (his bride) by His side following the rapture.

Revelations 12:6 -The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

Foreshadows the nation of Israel fleeing into the hills after the rise of the Antichrist, the dragon, that has tried for the length of history to devour God’s Son, Christ, his chosen people Israel, and Christ’s bride, the Church.

These images are taken from a free to download program called Stellarium that lets you see the positions of any heavenly body throughout time, even back to the time of Christ’s birth.  (Check out:  The Real Star of Bethlehem on youtube  Here is the first part.)

I hope you get a chance to watch the entire video about the signs of what is to come.  It is very exciting and amazing to see God’s word play out in front of our eyes!  Christ said we need to stay watchful during these last days.  We need to wake up those that aren’t.

May Christ be with you!

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